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on tv now, Pataki is Pa-talking.
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he needs to send his son (marine) to iraq. 3 year deferment my ass.
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he just said how NY is the greatest city on earth. i love how when you get attacked, you become the best city ever. like when someone dies, and even if he was a total fucking asshole, people can't say a damn bad thing about them. and yeah, he should send his son.
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2011-02-12 10-26-33

if a person died who was an asshole, i still say he's an asshole. Screw that redemtion in death. you only get so many hypocrit points in life and i'd hate to waste them on that.
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2011-02-14 9-39-11-

maybe it's the headache but i don't get it. the governor, the mayor, anyone associated with NYC feels like he must speak after this disaster in London. actually, that's not what i don't get. i don't get why the media is giving them the airwaves...it's not a national thing. bah.
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    2011-02-27 17-32-41

    were you in nyc on sept 11th?
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    2011-03-07 1-13-17-

    no, i wasn't is there anyway to erase a post? that sounded kind of stupid. my apologies. no offense intended.
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    2011-04-14 11-06-26

    not at all, no offense taken. but ny-ers in general are genuinly freaked out anytime something like this happens, dude. yes, it's a choice to live here and you rationally understand that a lot of it is media hype and political scheming, but the fact remains that our daily routines (that people in other places take for granted) are very much exposed to things we can't control. it makes you feel better when people address these things. that said, not everyone outside of ny or other major cities should necessarily worry about it.
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    2011-06-30 22-10-48

    yes, but PTSD or over-sensitivity is usually caused by direct exposure to a traumatic experience, not by seeing TV coverage and smoke.
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    2011-08-04 23-12-48

    not everyone watched it on tv. even if you did, SEEING some dude in a suit jump out of the xth floor of his office building is not the same as seeing jenny cut herself on the l-word. or thinking that the air kinda smells like smoke x months after x buildings crashed on top of x,x people. that *happened*. whether it was x blocks, or x blocks away from us, right? it does affect you, it did me, at least. also, this idea that if you don't ignore what's going on and go jogging instead, and instead feel unsafe, is some form of cowardice is just silly. i's sorry, gertie, but it is. it has nothing to do with cowardice.
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    2011-09-04 20-45-15

    i'm probably in the minority, then. see, I do consider that cowardice & illogical fear - because if you start saying, "well, there was a terrorist attack in London so I'm going to adjust my whole day and not do anything outside of the home" , then where do you draw the line? hell, there is no guaranteed safety anywhere, so why limit your life based on fear? That's just my personal point of view, tho - I know not everyone can feel that way. on an unrelated note, I will always be jealous of your ability to work from home! :P
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    2011-09-22 15-30-02

    a girl i knew from israel would tell us stories about the time she was driving to work and a bullet took out both back windows of her car, etc. There's random violence there, but people drive through town and get on busses every day, because cowering in fear would mean nothing would get d I guess in some ways it's the difference between it happening once and it happening every day, but the point is still valid. Or to put it the more TV way, if everyone stays home because they're scared, then the terrorists have won...
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    2011-11-05 20-12-35

    exactly! there is so much danger in everyday things, I can't let a chance terrorist attack affect my life.
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    2011-11-13 11-04-32

    plus, if you were at ground zero of an attack and survived, you could make millions by writing a book about it. Good fortune lurks in even the most hideous disasters.
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    And Gertie, I would also say that... ...from what I see here of you as a person, I think you'd rather go up in a puff of smoke while there was a chocotini in your hand and a girl in your lap rather than while you were huddled in your apartment taping the windows shut.
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    2012-10-25 18-27-57

    PTSD is a little more complicated than an issue of willpower. Though I do admire your fortitude. Some people, when faced with traumatic events have a brain chemical reaction that physiologiy impacts the brain. Those people have permanent effects from the experience. Other people will experience the same thing and be able to cope. And I do agree that term PTSD is a bit over-used and sometimes by self-diagnosing folks who want to check out. But there are real cases. Nowould choose to have it. www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/reliving.cfm
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    yes, I know... but, as you said, it has to do with experiencing traumatic events first hand, not just being a passive viewer in the safety of one's home or work, without the slightest bit of impending danger. I never said it doesn't exist, I'm just saying that people shouldn't claim PTSD just because they saw the same newsfootage as everyone else.
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    the situation you described is direct contact. most people didn't get within x miles of the WTC that day, and those that did saw what happen - their fear is based on something tangible. I'm really just annoyed at my pussy of a coworker using this as an excuse.
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    gertie, did you happen to read that New Yorker article on PTSD and the flagrant over-diagnosis of it a while back? I'm digging for it now.
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    hmm. this isn't the(I don't think it's online, alas), but also very interesting: www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?xfa_fact "According to the American Psychiatric Association, a patient is said to have P.T.S.D. if, for a month or more after a tragic event, he experiences several of the classic symptoms: flashbacks, intrusive thoughts, and nightmares; avoidance of activities and places that are reminiscent of the trauma; emotional numbness; chronic insomnia." In my experience (not living in New York, but having been the victim of several violent crimes, as well as having witnessed a freak death and an incredibly gory accident scene), people claim PTSD all the fucking time--for a few hours. It's not for a few hours. Europeans have pretty constant terrorist attacks (remember that little problem Britain had with Ireland?), most of them way smaller than x/x, yes, but way more frequent. When I was watching the news earlier, a reporter seemed stunned that people were so "subdued" and that the emergency services were calm and efficient and organized. If every human who witnessed an attack or was in the same city asgot PTSD, the whole continent would be paralyzed by now.
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